tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21879466.post833504079920281310..comments2024-02-18T03:21:27.028-05:00Comments on Dumneazu: Mihailo Csernavec, Hutsul Tsymbaly player, 1947-2007.dumneazuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03595663581295671582noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21879466.post-81353429688500304342008-03-02T10:31:00.000-05:002008-03-02T10:31:00.000-05:00Check out my Hutsul wedding videos and other video...Check out my Hutsul wedding videos and other videos from Ukraine at the my You Tube site here: <BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=dykunStefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00913779662275547638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21879466.post-26815397616689536202008-03-02T10:28:00.000-05:002008-03-02T10:28:00.000-05:00I just found this old entry while searching Google...I just found this old entry while searching Google for images of Hutsuls. Always sad to hear of the loss of a great musician. I really appreciate the You Tube videos of this outfit playing. A note, however, on Hutsul identity. The vast, vast majority of Hutsuls have adopted a Ukrainian sense of their national identity. The leading expert in the West on Rusyn identity, the Chair of Ukrainian Studies at the University of Toronto, Paul Robert Magosci--who is reviled by Ukrainians because he is the Western intellectual spokesman and defender of a separate, non-Ukrainian sense of Ruthenian/Rusyn identity--insists on this fact. Polls taken by him and others have shown this to be the case: the vast majority of Hutsuls consider themselves to be Ukrainian. This is NOT the case, however, with the other groups of the Carpathians--the Lemkos, the Bojkos and Dolynjany, most especially. The Rusyns of the Transcarpathian oblast of Ukraine were recognized in 2007 by their oblast parliament as distinct ethnic minority—but the Ukrainian government at large still refuses to give them such recognitio. Most Transcarpathian Rusyns are of Dolynjany background. It is also important to note that Hutsuls are not "Rusyns" proper, like the Bojkos, Lemkos, Dolynjany. Rusyns are thought to descend from the original, autochthonous East Slav population of the region, and thus have lived in their part of the Carpathians since very early times; Hutsuls, like the Gorale in Poland, are thought to be descendent of Vlach sheep herders that wandered up the Carpathians some 500 yrs ago. Their language is distinct from Rusyn dialects, as much as Rusyn dialects are distinct from western Ukrainian ones, that is. Hutsuls have been grouped with Rusyns because of proximity and because of a shared Carpathian lifestyle and musical culture. But it is also their difference from other Rusyns groups of the Carpathians that has contributed to their ease of adopting a Ukrainian sense of their identity. Really, there is no dispute over this. The great, great majority of Hutsuls have adopted the Ukrainian sense of identity. I have traveled extensively in Hutsulshchyna and other parts of the Carpathians, and can say this to be the case. Not so with Lemkos, Bojkos, and Dolynjany. And I am a full supporter of the Rusyns' right to assert themselves as non-Ukrainians, and to demand from the Ukrainian state recognition as a minority ethnic group (Rusyns are recognized officially, at the highest governmental level, as an ethnic minority in every state they live under but for Ukraine).<BR/><BR/>Your site is very nice. I share your passion for the music of this region.Stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00913779662275547638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21879466.post-60810514927044023032008-03-02T10:18:00.000-05:002008-03-02T10:18:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00913779662275547638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21879466.post-4861035513259420752007-02-13T11:59:00.000-05:002007-02-13T11:59:00.000-05:00I'm so sorry about this; I had heard he was ill an...I'm so sorry about this; I had heard he was ill and I'm very sad I never got to hear him play...Ganchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12954246221510868301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21879466.post-17547540279263528502007-02-13T07:53:00.001-05:002007-02-13T07:53:00.001-05:00misha and his tsymbaly will be a likht in gan eyde...misha and his tsymbaly will be a likht in gan eyden-- i'm sorry i never met him, but treasure the recordings with him.<BR/><BR/>pete rushefskyPete Rushefskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10781127685552434596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21879466.post-64513048293429891162007-02-13T07:53:00.000-05:002007-02-13T07:53:00.000-05:00May Misha and his tsymbaly be like a likht in gan ...May Misha and his tsymbaly be like a likht in gan eyden! So sorry never got to meet him, but treasure the recordings.<BR/><BR/>Pete RushefskyPete Rushefskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10781127685552434596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21879466.post-75183135020934369722007-02-11T02:44:00.000-05:002007-02-11T02:44:00.000-05:00Please accept our sympathies on the passing of you...Please accept our sympathies on the passing of your friend and colleague Misha. Thank you for sharing the stories and the music...<BR/>- Lee & ChuckPink Granitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14868107997163851415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21879466.post-7153434571864066082007-02-10T15:47:00.000-05:002007-02-10T15:47:00.000-05:00very sad to hear the news... but it's great that w...very sad to hear the news... but it's great that we got to see him play at Szentendre. thank you for the stories.Inna Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826830885992585371noreply@blogger.com